March 20, 2025

The True Story of Kelly Bates: A Case That Can’t Be Forgotten

The True Story of Kelly Bates: A Case That Can’t Be Forgotten

The True Story of Kelly Bates: A Case That Can’t Be Forgotten

James Smith looked ordinary. Clean-cut, middle-aged, a non-drinker, non-smoker—just another man in 1980s Manchester who seemed put together. But behind closed doors, he was anything but....

The True Story of Kelly Bates: A Case That Can’t Be Forgotten

James Smith looked ordinary. Clean-cut, middle-aged, a non-drinker, non-smoker—just another man in 1980s Manchester who seemed put together. But behind closed doors, he was anything but. What started as domestic abuse escalated into something far worse, as he preyed on younger and younger victims, tightening his grip on each one until there was no way out. His final victim, 17-year-old Kelly Bates, endured a level of torture so extreme that seasoned forensic experts struggled to comprehend it.

In this episode, we break down the timeline of James Smith’s crimes, the psychological manipulation he used to trap his victims, and the horrifying reality of what happened behind closed doors. How did he go unchecked for so long? What warning signs were missed? And how does a system meant to protect young women allow predators like Smith to thrive?

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Transcript
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James Smith looked like your average middle-aged guy.

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Neatly dressed, didn't drink, didn't smoke, kept his house spotless.

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The kind of man who at a glance might seem responsible, but responsible men don't leave a trail

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of destruction everywhere they go.

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And James, he was less neat freak and more walking red flag factory.

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He moved through relationships like a wrecking ball, each one worse than the last.

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But when he met Kelly Bates, things escalated in a way that shocked even veteran investigators.

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This is a story about one man's unchecked violence.

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It's about manipulation, control, and a system that let it happen.

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This is the story of James Smith and how the warning signs were there long before it

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was too late.

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But before we dive in, if you like your true crime brief and bingeable, you're in the

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right place.

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Hit follow now for at least two new episodes every week.

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This is 10 Minute Murder.

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Let's get into it.

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In 1980s Manchester, James Smith looked like the kind of man who had his life together,

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middle aged, well groomed, and with an almost obsessive dedication to keeping his home spotless.

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He stood out, especially among his peers, who were more inclined to enjoy a pint.

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Or several, James didn't drink, he didn't smoke.

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On paper, he seemed like the kind of guy that mothers would approve of.

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But James Smith was a walking facade beneath the polished surface was a man who thrived

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on control, cruelty, and violence.

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Everywhere he went, destruction followed, relationships ruined, live shattered, and in

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a pattern of abuse that grew worse with every new victim.

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By 1980, James Smith's marriage was falling apart, not because of infidelity or drifting

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apart, but because he had turned into a nightmare of a husband.

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On their wedding day, he had played the role of the doding partner, but over the next decade,

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the mask slipped.

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What started as charm and affection eroded into routine violence until his wife was living

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in constant fear.

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The abuse wasn't occasional.

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It was daily, and by the time she had the chance to leave, the damage, physical, and emotional

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had already been done.

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The divorce gave James something he hadn't had in years.

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He didn't use it to better himself, instead he saw it as an opportunity to trade up.

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He's done with women his own age.

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He wanted someone younger, prettier, and easier to control.

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Entered 20-year-old Tina Watson, she checked all the boxes for James, young, impressionable,

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and willing to believe he was the charming, respectable man he presented to be.

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But it didn't take long for reality to set in.

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"At first, it was now and again, just a little tap."

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Tina would later say, "But in the end, it was every day.

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He would smack me in the face or hit me over the head with an ash tray.

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He would kick me in the legs or between the legs."

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The abuse escalated, as it always did with James, and one day while Tina was in the bath,

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he took things further than he ever had before.

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He crept up behind her, grabbed her, and shoved her head under the water.

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Tina was fighting for her own life, plus fighting for the life of the unborn child growing inside her.

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Tina Watson had endured months of relentless abuse, punches, kicks, and the kind of violence

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that made no exception for the fact that she was carrying James's child.

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But when he shoved her head underwater, something shifted.

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There was no illusion of control, no hope of things getting better.

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This wasn't just another beating.

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This was an attempt to kill her.

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That moment was enough.

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Tina fought her way out of the bath, out of the apartment, and out of James's life for

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good.

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But James wasn't the type to reflect and change.

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As soon as one victim escaped, he simply found another.

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Tina was 20 years old, but James had already decided that younger was better, easier to manipulate,

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easier to control.

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So, when he set his sights on his next victim, he went even younger.

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15-year-old Wendy Modershed.

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There's a world of difference between 15 and 20, both legally and morally.

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But to James, it didn't matter.

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He treated Wendy the same way he treated all the women in his life.

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The charm, at first, the slow introduction of violence, the gradual increase in control,

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the occasional slap into daily beatings.

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And then, one day, he shoved her head under the kitchen sink and tried to drown her.

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Wendy got away, but James wasn't done.

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By 1993, James had decided that even 15 was too old.

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His next target was 14-year-old Kelly Bates.

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Kelly was still in high school, still living with her parents, a level of protection that

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made things harder for James.

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At least in the beginning.

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Her days were structured.

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Her parents expected her home.

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She showed up with unexplained bruises they would have questions.

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So James played the long game.

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For two years, he kept his hands off Kelly.

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Not because he wasn't violent, he was, but because he was smart enough to know that he

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needed her to trust him first.

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He convinced her to keep their relationship a secret, manipulated her into sneaking out,

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into lying about where she was.

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By the time she was 17, she was ready to move in with him.

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James was 49.

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Kelly's parents didn't even know his real age.

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She had introduced them to James over the phone, never in person, and against their better

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judgment, they reluctantly agreed to let her move out.

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Under one condition, regular contact.

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It was only after Kelly had been living with James for a while that her mother, Margaret,

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met him by chance.

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Quote, "Kelly brought him home when I was out.

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As I walked in, he swaggered down the stairs.

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Margaret made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

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He was much older than I expected and looked a bit like John Denver.

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But he was smart.

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He said nice to meet you at last.

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And all I could think of was how I wanted to get rid of him."

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Margaret had never met this man before, but she knew instantly that he was dangerous.

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She even admitted to having a brief, violent thought in that moment.

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I vividly recall seeing our bread knife in the kitchen and wanting to pick it up and

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stab him in the back.

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I've thought about that many times.

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But she didn't.

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Instead, she and her husband did what they could.

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They tried to reason with Kelly to tell her that she deserved better.

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But James had already done the damage.

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He spent years grooming her, making her believe that she needed him, that she was lucky to have

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him.

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They couldn't push too hard.

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If they did, they risk pushing her right back into his arms.

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Despite James's control, Kelly's parents made one thing clear.

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He always had a home to come back to.

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At one point, she took them up on that offer.

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James had finally shown her what he was capable of.

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The abuse turned physical, and for a brief moment, Kelly saw a way out.

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She left him and moved back with her parents.

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But James wasn't about to let her go.

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He was unemployed, which meant he had nothing but time.

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He stalked her, harassed her, wore her down until eventually she agreed to move back

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in with him.

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This time, he tightened his grip.

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He forced her to quit her job, stopped letting her leave the house.

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He rarely allowed her to call her parents.

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And when Kelly's family received birthday and anniversary cards from her, they immediately

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noticed something strange.

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The handwriting inside belonged to James.

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Kelly had not written a word of it.

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They started asking around, trying to find out if anyone had seen their daughter.

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A concerned neighbor pressed James for proof that Kelly was okay.

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Fortunately, he allowed Kelly to stand in front of an upstairs window for a few seconds

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before yanking her away.

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That was supposed to be enough to silence any questions.

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But of course it wasn't.

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Kelly's older brother went to the house next, demanding to see his sister.

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James lied, saying she wasn't home.

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The brother started asking around and eventually got word that Kelly had been seen in the neighborhood.

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Relieved, he assumed that she was okay and left.

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It wasn't until later that the family realized something horrifying.

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The sighting of Kelly, their friend, had reported.

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It happened months earlier.

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By the time her brother had shown up at the door, Kelly had already been mutilated beyond

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recognition.

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James Smith finally picked up the phone and called the police.

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He told them there had been an accident.

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That Kelly had drowned in the bath.

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But anyone familiar with James knew better.

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When authorities arrived at the house, they stepped into a nightmare.

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Blood stains, restraints, evidence of prolonged torture.

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And in the bedroom, Kelly's body.

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She had suffered over 150 separate injuries.

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Scalded with boiling water, burned with an iron, stabbed with knives, forks, scissors,

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whatever James could get his hands on.

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Her ears, nose, mouth, lips and genitals had been mutilated.

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Her hair had been ripped out in chunks, likely when he tied her to the radiator by her scalp.

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And she was missing her eyes.

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The pathologist to examine Kelly's body, William Lawler, later said, "In my career, I have

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examined almost 600 victims of homicide, but I have never come across injuries so extensive."

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The autopsy revealed that Kelly had also been starved, losing nearly 45 pounds in her final

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months.

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In the last week of her life, she had been given nothing to drink.

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The prosecution against James didn't meant words.

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But the injuries were not the result of one sudden eruption of violence.

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They must have been caused over a long period, and were so extensive and terrible that the

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defendant must have deliberately and systematically tortured the girl.

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James, of course, refused to take responsibility.

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He blamed Kelly, said she had wound him up, claimed she had taunted him about his dead mother,

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and dared him to be more violent.

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As if any sane person would believe that a 17-year-old girl would invite this level of

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brutality.

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His excuses didn't hold up.

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It took the jury less than an hour to find him guilty.

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"You are an abuser of women," the judge told him, "as he sentenced him to life in prison,

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and I intend so far as it is in my power that you will abuse no more."

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The jury was so disturbed by the evidence that they were offered counseling after the trial.

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Years later, Kelly's mother still lives with the "what ifs."

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The moment she met James and felt the instinctive, stomach-churning dread, the bread knife in her

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kitchen, the thought she had, if only for a moment.

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"I want him to die just like Kelly did.

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I know I shouldn't say this, but I wish I'd killed him the first time I saw him.

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That way, Kelly would still be alive."

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Thanks for listening to this episode of 10 Minute Murder.

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I'm Joe, the host, and you know it's allergy season when I can barely make it through an

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episode without starting to sound horse and raspy and quiet, and it sneaks up on me.

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I didn't expect this when I started.

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I felt completely fine, but then boom, it hit me, and I had a power through it.

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I hope it didn't take away too much from the episode.

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This is an important case.

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If you've never heard of this case, I'd encourage you to do a little bit more research

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It's terrifying, it's tragic, and more people need to know about this case.

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But again, sorry about my voice.

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I wish I could do something about it, but allergy season is going to allergy season.

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So here we are.

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And if you know me personally, you know that I don't usually call it allergy season.

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I call it allergy season.

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I cut all of that out, by the way.

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Let's do that.

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Hello, Joe.

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Love the podcast.

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And I love when you used to talk about random things that bother you, that shouldn't bother

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you at the end of episodes.

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Bring that back.

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Lisa in Twin Cities.

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Well, Lisa, today's your lucky day because today I heard something that really got under

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my skin.

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I was listening to, it was either MSNBC or CNN, something, and there was someone on their

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talking and they used the word genuine, but they didn't say genuine.

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They said genuine.

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And I didn't know until today I hate genuine.

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Not the singer.

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Genuine singer is fantastic.

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I mean, genuine pronouncing that word that way.

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Didn't know until today I hate that.

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I turned it off.

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Like I literally turned this whole radio thing to just shut it down because genuine bothers

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me that much.

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I don't, I was in morning traffic so that could have been part of it.

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I was already frustrated, but just no going forward.

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I hate genuine.

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Hope that was the answer you're looking for.

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All right, that's going to do it.

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That's your episode for today.

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Thank you so much for listening to 10 Minute Murder.